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EDGAR ROSS, Defendant-Appellant." ], "opinions": [ { "text": "PRESIDING JUSTICE GORDON\ndelivered the opinion of the court:\nAfter a jury trial in January 1997 defendant Edgar Ross was found guilty of the first degree murder (720 ILCS 5/9\u20141(a)(1), (a)(2) (West 1994)) of Henry Johnson. The court entered judgment on the verdict and sentenced defendant to 43 years\u2019 imprisonment in the Illinois Department of Corrections (IDOC). Defendant contends he was denied a fair trial and received an excessive sentence. We reverse and remand.\nAt trial Ian Williams testified for the State that on the evening of December 22, 1994, he and his friend Henry Johnson went to the home of Johnson\u2019s girlfriend, Leslie Owens (Owens), on 106th Place in Chicago. The two brought alcoholic beverages and consumed some of them en route. When they arrived, they saw defendant on the street in front of Owens\u2019s house.\nWilliams went inside the house after speaking with defendant briefly, but Johnson stayed outside and shared his drink with the defendant. Inside the house with Williams were Owens and Owens\u2019s friend Melissa Page. After approximately 15 minutes, Owens looked outside and told Williams that Johnson was going to help the defendant fight someone. She told Williams to \u201ccome get your boy\u201d before the fight started. Williams went to the door and called Johnson to come inside, which he did. Sometime thereafter, a woman named Neecie Roberts arrived. Williams and Johnson drank as the group talked.\nSometime later, defendant knocked on Owens\u2019s door and she let him in. When he came in, the defendant began talking loudly about \u201cwhat just happened outside with him\u201d; his voice woke Owens\u2019s mother .(Big Leslie), who asked to join the party and became angry because people were drinking and had not offered her anything to drink. Defendant passed his hat around to collect money to buy Big Leslie a drink. Williams testified that he gave defendant a dollar, but when defendant got to Johnson, Johnson said to him \u201con the five you trying to get some for yourself.\u201d Williams stated that he had never heard the term \u201con the five\u201d before that night, but he explained that the phrase meant, \u201cIt\u2019s like on everything we know and love, you know, on the five.\u201d He stated that Johnson was not and never had been in a gang.\nWilliams stated that defendant responded \u201cF \u2014 k the five\u201d and grabbed Johnson by the neck. The two began fighting, and Williams stated that it took a while to separate them because they were both large men (he stated that Johnson was 6 feet 3 inches and 200 pounds and defendant was 5 feet 9 inches and 180 pounds). After they were separated, Big Leslie ordered everyone out of the house. Defendant left immediately and Williams and Johnson left together a short time later, after they had gathered their things together.\nAs Williams and Johnson were walking home, Williams saw the defendant \u201crunning out of somebody\u2019s house\u201d toward them. Defendant confronted them and began asking \u201cwhat\u2019s up,\u201d and took off his belt in a threatening manner. Williams stepped between defendant and Johnson to prevent them from fighting, but Johnson took off his coat as if preparing to fight, and defendant swung around Williams and hit Johnson in his chest with the belt. Williams stepped out from between the two and Johnson struck defendant in the face, after which defendant ran back to the house he had just come from. Williams and Johnson gathered their things and began walking away more quickly.\nA few minutes later, defendant ran up behind Williams and Johnson with a rifle in his hands. Williams and Johnson ran in separate directions. Williams ran into a gangway but found his way blocked by a gate barring the far end. When he returned to the mouth of the gangway, he saw defendant fire the rifle at Johnson twice, then run. He stated that he was 10 to 15 feet away from the defendant, there was nothing obstructing his view, and the area was fairly well lit by streetlights.\nWhen Williams emerged from the gangway, he saw Johnson lying on the ground facedown about three houses away. When he ran over to Johnson and turned him over, Johnson was covered with blood and had stopped breathing. The police arrived within approximately five minutes. Williams testified that at the police station later that night (or early the next morning) he selected the defendant\u2019s photo out of an array. He also picked the defendant out of a lineup on August 3, 1995.\nNeecie Roberts corroborated Williams\u2019s version of the fight at Owens\u2019s house, except that she stated that Johnson and defendant were both stating \u201cgang slurs\u201d like \u201cf-k the five\u201d and \u201cf-k the Chief\u2019 before defendant attacked Johnson and began to choke him. She stated that Melissa Page left the house shortly after the three men but returned almost immediately and stated that defendant, Williams and Johnson were fighting. However, when Roberts went outside with Owens and Page, she only saw Johnson putting on his jacket. She heard Johnson yell \u201cVice Lord Killer,\u201d which she understood to be a gang slogan.\nRoberts stated that the women returned inside, but a few minutes later she heard two gunshots. When she went outside she saw Johnson lying on the street, but she did not see the shooting and never saw the defendant with a gun.\nMelissa Page corroborated that Johnson and Williams had come over to Owens\u2019s house on December 23 and that defendant and Johnson got into a fight at Owens\u2019s house when defendant asked Johnson for money. Page stated that Johnson was saying \u201cgang stuff\u2019 like \u201cf-k the five, f-k the chiefs,\u201d to which defendant responded \u201cokay, f-k the five, f-k the chiefs.\u201d Page explained that Johnson and defendant were both members of gangs that were part of a general gang organization known as the \u201cBrothers,\u201d or \u201cPeople,\u201d whose symbol was the number 5 (as distinguished from the organization known as the \u201cFolks,\u201d whose symbol was the number 6). She stated that the exchange between Johnson and defendant meant that they were going to fight each other despite the fact that they \u201cwere both under the same number,\u201d i.e., had similar gang ties.\nPage stated that when she left Owens\u2019s house she saw Johnson picking his shirt up off the ground and saw defendant running across the street and into a gangway. Johnson was yelling after him \u201cgo run get the strap, go run like a little baby.\u201d Page stated that she understood a \u201cstrap\u201d to mean a gun. She went back inside and told the others that it seemed like the men had been fighting. Page heard two gunshots while she was back inside the house and when she went back outside after the police arrived she saw Johnson dead on the ground.\nChicago police officer Daniel Aguilera testified that he and his partner responded to a radio call reporting a man shot at 334 West 106th Place. They responded to the call and saw a man lying on the ground on his back and another man over him calling for help, telling them his friend had been shot. Aguilera called for an ambulance on the radio and taped off the area around the body to preserve the scene. He spoke with Williams and Owens and subsequently sent out a \u201cflash message\u201d over the radio to alert other units to look for defendant Edgar Ross in connection with the shooting. He and his partner then went to the defendant\u2019s house (about half a block from the scene of the shooting) with the detectives who had by that time arrived on the scene.\nChicago police detective Herman Cross testified that he responded to the scene of the shooting on the evening of December 23. He immediately had Williams transported to the Area 2 violent crimes police station for an interview. He subsequently went to Owens\u2019s home and spoke with Roberts, Page, and Owens at Owens\u2019s home. He also had those three witnesses brought to Area 2 and spoke with them again there. As a result of those conversations, he looked for the defendant in connection with the shooting. Detective Cross stated that he went to defendant\u2019s home address (across the street from Owens\u2019s home) three times on December 23, but never found defendant at home. He told a woman with whom he spoke at that house that it would be in defendant\u2019s best interest to surrender in order that the police could determine what had happened. In January 1995, approximately a month later, still having failed to locate the defendant, Detective Cross obtained a warrant for his arrest.\nSeveral months later, in August 1995, Detective Cross was notified by the authorities in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, that the defendant was in custody at the Milwaukee County jail. Detective Cross and Detective Bernatek went to Milwaukee and brought the defendant back to Chicago. After a lineup in Chicago in which Williams identified the defendant as the perpetrator, he was charged with first degree murder.\nOn cross-examination Detective Cross stated that when he interviewed Williams, Williams told him that during the incident at Owens\u2019s house Johnson and defendant \u201cbegan to exchang[e] gang slogans such as on the five and f \u2014 k the five.\u201d He also stated that when he took defendant into custody in Milwaukee he read him his Miranda rights. When defense counsel asked Cross if he thereafter had a conversation with the defendant, Cross replied that the defendant \u201ctold us he had a lawyer, and he didn\u2019t have anything to say.\u201d The court immediately interrupted, instructed the detective simply to answer the question yes or no and admonished the jury to disregard the answer.\nAt the termination of Detective Cross\u2019s testimony defendant moved for a mistrial based on the detective\u2019s testimony regarding defendant\u2019s invocation of his right to remain silent. The defense contended that the comment not only would have been improper if true, but in fact was not accurate, because the defendant did not refuse to answer questions but, rather, voluntarily cooperated with extradition and subsequently waived his rights and gave a statement in which he admitted having ah argument with Johnson but stated that he left the area thereafter. The court denied the motion, stating that the improper comment was cured by the \u201cprompt cautionary instruction to the jury to immediately disregard Detective Cross\u2019s remark.\u201d The court also denied the defense request to call Detective Cross during its case in chief and impeach him by introducing the full text of the defendant\u2019s subsequent statement.\nThe defendant testified on his own behalf. He stated that at the time of the crime he was not living at the 106th Place address but rather on 113th Street. Before going to Owens\u2019s house that evening he went to visit a friend, Suzette, who lived on the same block as Owens. After leaving Suzette, he was on his way to Owens\u2019s house when he ran into Johnson and a friend whom defendant knew by the name of \u201cLittle Snake.\u201d He stated that Williams was not present at the time, and he and Johnson and \u201cLittle Snake\u201d spoke for 35 to 40 minutes out on the street approximately halfway between Suzette\u2019s and Owens\u2019s homes. He then recounted an encounter on the street in which \u201cLittle Snake\u201d initiated a fight with a man and woman walking down the block whom \u201cLittle Snake\u201d identified as \u201cfolks.\u201d Defendant testified that he pulled \u201cLittle Snake\u201d away from the man and told the couple to \u201cgo on.\u201d Although Johnson and \u201cLittle Snake\u201d argued with him about why he stopped the altercation, defendant testified that he felt it was not right for three men to \u201cjump[ ] on the man and the woman.\u201d While defendant was explaining his position to \u201cLittle Snake,\u201d Johnson walked away and went into Owens\u2019s house.\nDefendant stated that he subsequently went to Owens\u2019s house and admitted that a fight started between him and Johnson. However, he stated that Johnson started the fight because defendant chastised him for cursing in front of Big Leslie, when in response to defendant\u2019s request for money to buy a drink for Big Leslie Johnson said \u201cf-k you and f-k the drink.\u201d He testified that after he and Johnson had wrestled for a few moments he heard Big Leslie yell for them to stop, and he stopped fighting immediately. Johnson stopped as well. Defendant recognized that Big Leslie was very angry, so he left. He maintained that Big Leslie did not ask him to go, however.\nAfter leaving, defendant testified that he returned to Suzette\u2019s house to call a cab. However, no one answered the door, so he went back down the front steps to the street. As he closed the gate to Suzette\u2019s yard, Williams and Johnson walked up to him. Johnson told defendant \u201cMan, you ain\u2019t sh-t. You know what I\u2019m saying? F-k them folks.\u201d After this the two of them began to push each other, until Williams stepped between them. The defendant told Williams to take Johnson home, because he was drunk. He stated that he and Johnson had known each other for about a year and a half and were friends.\nAfter this encounter, defendant testified that he walked over to 107th Place and got in a cab and went to his sister\u2019s house. The next morning another sister of his who was coming through Chicago on the way to Milwaukee brought him up to Milwaukee with her because there were a lot of jobs there.\nDefendant testified that Detective Cross had come up to Milwaukee some months later to bring him back to Chicago. When defense counsel asked defendant whether he had told Cross that he had a lawyer, the court sustained the State\u2019s objection and struck the defendant\u2019s answer of \u201cno.\u201d The court went on to admonish the jury to \u201cdisregard that question, and you recall I instructed you to disregard Detective Cross\u2019 statement at the end of the testimony. Those remarks are stricken from the record, and the jury must disregard.\u201d Defendant subsequently testified that he returned to Chicago voluntarily and that when he was brought to Area 2 he spoke with Detective Cross and an assistant State\u2019s Attorney.\nDefendant testified that he was not aware that the victim had been shot until a few days before Detective Cross came to Milwaukee to bring him back to Chicago. He also stated that he was not in a gang at the time of the incident. He admitted he had previously been a member of the \u201cMCs\u201d or \u201cMickey Cobras,\u201d which was part of the \u201cfive,\u201d but stated that since he was no longer an MC at the time of the crime, Johnson\u2019s saying \u201cf-k the five\u201d did not mean anything to him. He stated that he knew Johnson to be a member of the Black-stones street gang, which was in the same \u201cnation\u201d as the MCs.\nIn rebuttal the State called Cybil Thomas. Thomas, a former assistant State\u2019s Attorney, testified that she interviewed the defendant when he was returned to Chicago from Milwaukee in August 1995. She identified the defendant in court as the person with whom she spoke and stated that, in the course of the interview, he told her that at the time he left for Milwaukee he knew that the victim had been shot and that he had been implicated in the murder. The State also offered certified statements of conviction indicating that the defendant had two convictions for the felony offense of possession of controlled substance with intent to deliver, and one prior conviction of the felony offense of burglary.\nThe docket sheet indicates that the jury retired to begin its deliberations at 6:30 p.m. on January 21. The jury sent out notes to the court at 7:50 p.m. and 8:15 p.m. requesting, respectively, (1) a transcript of the assistant State\u2019s Attorney\u2019s testimony regarding her interview with the defendant in 1995, and (2) a transcript of the interview itself. Both requests were denied. Later that same evening, the court brought the jury back into court without defense counsel being present. (Although the time is not indicated in the record, defendant and the State both represent in their briefs to this court that the jury was returned at \u201caround\u201d 10:30 p.m.) When the jury had arrived in court, the record reveals that the court inquired as follows:\n\u201cTHE COURT: Good evening, folks. Will your foreperson please rise? Sir, you are the foreperson?\nA JUROR: Yes, I am.\nTHE COURT: Your name, please?\nA JUROR: Kevin Moony.\nTHE COURT: Mr. Moony, do you feel with further deliberations this evening you\u2019ll be able to reach a verdict?\nA JUROR: I think so.\nTHE COURT: Mr. Moony, I\u2019ll ask that you and the fellow jurors retire to the jury room. We\u2019ll call you out shortly. Please continue to deliberate.\u201d\nSubsequently, at 10:46 p.m., the court requested the sheriff to bring the jury back into open court, apparently in order to sequester it for the evening. The sheriff informed the court that he had been informed that the jury was signing a verdict at the time, at which point defendant moved for a mistrial based on the fact that defense counsel had not been present when the court brought the jury out for its earlier inquiry and \u201cbasically [gave] a Prim instruction to the jury.\u201d\nThe court stated that what it did could not be considered an instruction because it was not given to the jury in writing, The court also noted that the entirety of its communication with the jury was an inquiry whether the jury could reach a verdict that evening and that the last communication that the court had received from defense counsel was that counsel \u201cdid not wish to return to the courtroom this evening.\u201d Defense counsel responded that its last communication with the court was that the court \u201cshould lock them up,\u201d and that counsel believed that the court intended do so. Counsel stated that he and co-counsel were nearby having dinner and could have returned within minutes. He stated further that he telephoned someone (he believed it was a sheriff) and informed him that he and co-counsel were on their way back to the courtroom.\nThe court denied the mistrial request, noting that the defendant was personally present when it brought the jury back (at the alleged time of 10:30 p.m.).\nThe jury returned a verdict of guilty of first degree murder. The jury was polled, and all jurors indicated that this was their verdict.\nThe cause was continued until March 11, at which time the court denied defendant\u2019s motion for judgment of acquittal and/or new trial and sentenced defendant to a prison term of 43 years. In sentencing defendant the court noted the jury\u2019s rejection of defendant\u2019s trial testimony; noted that defendant\u2019s previous felony convictions had not deterred him (in fact, defendant was on mandatory supervised release at the time of the murder); found that the incident was in part motivated by rival gang membership; and noted that defendant had shot the victim in the back. The court found \u201cvery little mitigation about this conduct\u201d and found that defendant was \u201cnot capable of rehabilitation at *** age 27.\u201d\nDefendant appeals, contending that he should receive a new trial because (1) the court\u2019s communication with the jury was outside the presence of defense counsel and was coercive, and (2) because of Detective Cross\u2019s testimony that he had invoked his right not to speak to the police outside the presence of his attorney. In the alternative, defendant argues that the sentence imposed by the trial court in this case represents an abuse of the court\u2019s discretion and requests that we remand for resentencing or reduce defendant\u2019s sentence pursuant to our authority under Supreme Court Rule 615(b)(4) (134 Ill. 2d R. 615(b)(4)). We reverse and remand for a new trial because of the trial court\u2019s communication with the jury.\nANALYSIS\nDefendant\u2019s first complaint is that his trial was tainted by the trial court\u2019s communication with the jury outside the presence of defense counsel. As noted above, we find that this constituted error entitling defendant to a new trial. \u201cA criminal defendant has a constitutional right to a public trial, and to appear and participate in person and by counsel at all proceedings that involve his substantial rights.\u201d (Emphasis in original.) People v. McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d 420, 459, 660 N.E.2d 832, 849 (1995); accord People v. Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d 81, 162 (1998); People v. Childs, 159 Ill. 2d 217, 227, 636 N.E.2d 534, 538 (1994); People v. Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d 561, 568, 691 N.E.2d 80, 85 (1998). Jury deliberations are a critical stage of trial which involve substantial rights, triggering the defendant\u2019s right to be present and participate in person and by counsel. Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d at 162 (\u201cthe trial judge communicated with the jury outside of defendant\u2019s presence during jury deliberations, which are a critical stage of trial affecting defendant\u2019s substantial rights\u201d); McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 459-60, 660 N.E.2d at 849 (\u201cthis ex parte communication between the judge and the jury deprived defendant of his constitutional rights to be present at and to participate in a critical stage of trial\u201d); Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d at 568, 691 N.E.2d at 85 (\u201cJury deliberations are a critical stage of trial and involve substantial rights\u201d); see also Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227, 636 N.E.2d at 538 (referring to \u201ccommunication between the judge and the jury after the jury has retired to deliberate\u201d as implicating \u201cfundamental rights\u201d). There is no question that defense counsel was not present during the communication between the court and the jury, which impinged upon defendant\u2019s right to be represented by counsel during all critical stages of the proceedings. \u201cBecause an ex parte communication between a judge and a jury deprives a defendant of his constitutional rights to be present at and to participate for his protection in a critical stage of trial, the burden is on the State to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the error was harmless.\u201d Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 228, 636 N.E.2d at 539; accord Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d at 162; McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 460, 660 N.E.2d at 849; Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d at 568, 691 N.E.2d at 85. The State\u2019s demonstration that any error was harmless must extend to any error in the communication itself, i.e., the State\u2019s burden is not met by a demonstration that defendant may not have been prejudiced by the isolated fact that the communication was ex parte. See Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 233-35, 636 N.E.2d at 541-42 (finding that the State failed to demonstrate that defendant was not prejudiced by the content of the communication itself; the court did not focus on the ex parte nature of the communication in determining whether the communication had been harmful).\nThe State suggests that no violation of defendant\u2019s rights occurred since defendant was himself present during the communication with the jury, relying on language in McDonald and Childs that a defendant\u2019s fundamental rights are violated by any communication between the judge and the jury after the jury has retired to deliberate \u201cexcept one held in open court and in defendant\u2019s presence.\u201d McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 459, 660 N.E.2d at 849; Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227, 636 N.E.2d at 538. We reject this argument. A defendant has the right not only to be present in person, but also to be present by counsel at all critical stages of the proceedings against him including, as previously noted, communications between the court and the jury during deliberations. Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d at 162; McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 459, 660 N.E.2d at 849; Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227, 636 N.E.2d at 538; Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d at 568, 691 N.E.2d at 85. The reason the criminal defendant has this right is \u201cso that he may know what is being done, make objections, and take such action as he deems best to secure his rights and for his protection and defense.\u201d Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227, 636 N.E.2d at 538. This end is not adequately served by the mere presence of the defendant himself, who may or may not have any experience with, let alone expertise in, legal matters. It is also necessary that counsel be present to aid and advise the defendant as to what course of action he should take, including whether to object, concur, or attempt to influence how the court addresses the jury.\nAccordingly, the burden is on the State to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that the court\u2019s communication with the jury was harmless. Defendant contends that he was harmed by the court\u2019s communication with the jury because it interrupted the jury\u2019s deliberations and coerced it to reach a verdict more quickly than it otherwise would have. The State seeks to characterize the communication as a mere harmless inquiry as to whether the jury would reach a verdict that evening. We cannot concur in the State\u2019s characterization, and we cannot conclude that it is clear beyond a reasonable doubt that the jury would not have felt coerced by the communication to reach a verdict prematurely, without the benefit of full deliberations. The court called the jury without any prompting by the jury, apparently on its own initiative. After inquiring of the foreperson whether he believed that the jury \u201cwith further deliberations this evening [would] be able to reach a verdict,\u201d the court returned the jury to the jury room, stating that it would \u201ccall [the jury] out shortly\u201d and requesting that the jury \u201cPlease continue to deliberate.\u201d Sixteen minutes later, the jury signed a verdict as the court was calling them back to open court.\nAny judicial intervention into the jury\u2019s deliberations in which the court informs the jury as to the consequences of failure to reach a verdict by a certain time can be coercive. Even merely informing the jury that it will be sequestered if it has failed to reach a verdict after a certain time can be coercive, although it has been held that whether such a communication will be found to be coercive depends on the length of time for which the jury subsequently deliberates. See People v. Friedman, 144 Ill. App. 3d 895, 903, 494 N.E.2d 760, 765 (1986). There the reviewing court held that the trial court coerced a verdict by telling the jury that it would be sequestered after forty-five minutes. In People v. Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d 204, 230-32, 568 N.E.2d 837, 848 (1991), our supreme court held that by informing the jury that it would be taken to overnight lodging at 10 p.m., the trial court did not coerce a hasty verdict because the jury in fact deliberated for an additional 45 minutes thereafter. Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d at 232, 568 N.E.2d at 848. However, Steidl reaffirmed Friedman on the basis that in Friedman although the jury was informed it had 45 minutes before it would be sequestered, it returned a verdict in less than five minutes. Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d at 232, 568 N.E.2d at 848. The key to determining whether in formation about sequestration will be found to be coercive is the amount of time the jury deliberates thereafter. See Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d at 232, 568 N.E.2d at 848 (since the trial court\u2019s \u201c \u2018timely notice\u2019 [of the dinner and sequestration arrangements] was followed by 45 minutes of further deliberations, it did not prejudice defendant\u2019s rights to a fair trial\u201d); Friedman, 144 Ill. App. 3d at 903, 494 N.E.2d at 765 (\u201c[n]otably brief deliberations [after a communication] invite an inference that the court\u2019s remarks were the primary factor in the procurement of the verdict\u201d); People v. Branch, 123 Ill. App. 3d 245, 252, 462 N.E.2d 868, 873-74 (1984) (noting on review of trial court\u2019s comments to a deadlocked jury \u201cthe fact that the jury deliberated for 4V2 hours before hearing the challenged remarks, but for only 10 minutes thereafter, belies the State\u2019s assertion that they did not impose any pressure on the minority juror to heed the majority and thus to change his vote for the sole purpose of rendering a verdict\u201d). Cf. People v. Wooton, 198 Ill. App. 3d 591, 595, 555 N.E.2d 1214, 1216 (1990) (distinguishing Friedman and Branch on the basis that in those cases \u201cthe notably brief deliberation after the court\u2019s remarks created an inference that the court\u2019s remarks were a primary factor in the procurement of a verdict\u201d).\nIn this case the jury returned its verdict approximately 15 minutes after the court\u2019s interruption, which would constitute grounds for reversal under Steidl, Friedman and Branch even if the court had merely neutrally informed the jury of the time at which it would be sequestered if no verdict had yet been reached and even if the burden were on defendant to prove prejudice. In this case, as noted above, the burden is on the State to prove that defendant was not prejudiced beyond a reasonable doubt, because defendant was deprived of representation at the time the remark was made. See Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d at 162; McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 460, 660 N.E.2d at 849; Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227-28, 636 N.E.2d at 539; Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d at 568, 691 N.E.2d at 85, discussed above.\nEven more overridingly, the communication in this case is different in kind from the communications in Steidl, Friedman, and Branch. Here the court did not neutrally inform the jury of the time at which it would be sequestered. Rather, the court asked if the jury could reach a verdict that evening and, upon receiving an affirmative response, sent the jury back and informed it that it would be called out \u201cshortly.\u201d A reasonable inference for the jury to draw from this exchange is that it should be prepared to render its verdict when it was recalled.\n' The State attempts to justify the court\u2019s statement that it would \u201ccall [the jury] out shortly\u201d on the basis that since \u201cthe hour was late, around 10:30 p.m., the court could have reasonably assumed that the jury would have a verdict within the next hour and a half, as the foreman stated he thought the jury could reach a verdict that night.\u201d By this the State appears to characterize the court\u2019s statement, not as an admonition to the jury to accelerate its deliberations, but as a prediction that the jury would return a verdict before midnight, consistent with its representation to the court. However, this characterization by the State is not persuasive, particularly as the record reflects that the court did not wait until midnight but, rather, instructed the bailiff to call the jury out approximately 15 minutes later, at 10:46. More overridingly, the court did not say that it would await the verdict, but instead indicated that it would take the initiative in calling the jury out \u201cshortly.\u201d Thus the more likely inference, or at the very least an equally likely inference, for the jury to have made from the exchange was an admonitory one, i.e., that it should be prepared to render a verdict \u201cshortly,\u201d when the court called it out. The contention that the statement is susceptible of a possible noncoercive interpretation is beside the point, as the State has the burden, not of demonstrating that the jury could have interpreted the statement innocently, but of demonstrating that the jury did not interpret the exchange coercively beyond a reasonable doubt. See Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227-28, 636 N.E.2d at 539 (and the other authorities cited above). Such a conclusion is untenable in this case.\nMoreover, in Steidl, Wooton, Friedman, and Branch the claims of jury coercion resulted from communications by the judge concerning his prospective arrangements for the jury\u2019s sequestration. It is in this context that those cases focus on the passage of time in determining whether to treat the communications as coercive. However, where the court overtly expresses a preference for the jury to hasten its arrival at a verdict rather than merely advising it of its scheduled sequestration, even the passage of a longer duration following such an admonition might not cure such error. See People v. Ferro, 195 Ill. App. 3d 282, 551 N.E.2d 1378 (1990). In that case the reviewing court reversed and remanded for a new trial because of the trial court\u2019s statement to the jury that it would be housed in a motel until it reached a verdict. The court held this statement conveyed the message to the jury that it \u201cmust arrive at a verdict\u201d (i.e., could not deadlock) and thus held that the verdict was coerced notwithstanding that jury did not return a verdict until more than IV2 hours after the communication.\nIn another case we might decline to consider the brevity of the jury\u2019s postcommunication deliberation because the record does not show at what time the communication occurred. Arguments made by an appellant which depend on facts not contained in the record are not sustainable on appeal. U.S. Minerals & Mining, Inc. v. Licensed Processors, Ltd., 194 Ill. App. 3d 428, 434, 551 N.E.2d 661, 665 (1990) (\u201cthose issues which depend for resolution upon facts not in the record mandate affirmance\u201d); In re Estate of Jacobs, 189 Ill. App. 3d 625, 629, 545 N.E.2d 502, 504 (1989) (\u201cAffirmance is dictated when crucial facts are omitted in the record\u201d). However, in this case not only has the State in its brief failed to controvert defendant\u2019s representation as to the time at which the communication occurred, it has affirmatively used that representation to explain the trial court\u2019s statement that it would call the jury back \u201cshortly,\u201d as noted above. This is virtually equivalent to a stipulation and allows us to consider the matter notwithstanding that it is dehors the record. See Mastrandrea v. Chicago Park District, 259 Ill. App. 3d 897, 900, 632 N.E.2d 1051, 1052 (1994) (court considered matters not of record because \u201cstatements made by the parties at oral argument reveal no actual dispute as to the facts necessary to resolve this issue\u201d); Fleener v. Fleener, 133 Ill. App. 2d 118, 120-21, 263 N.E.2d 879, 881 (1970) (appellee waived challenge to certification of transcript by basing one of her appellate arguments on the transcript that she sought to challenge). Cf. In re J.S., 267 Ill. App. 3d 145, 151, 640 N.E.2d 1379, 1384 (1994) (matters outside the record cannot be considered by a court of review \u201cabsent a stipulation by the parties\u201d); People v. Thomas, 220 Ill. App. 3d 110, 129, 580 N.E.2d 1353, 1366 (1991) (same). Accordingly, we shall consider the information.\nThe State contends that even if we are to conclude that the communication was erroneous, any error was harmless because of the overwhelming evidence against defendant. We disagree. As previously noted, this is constitutional error affecting the fundamental right to trial by jury. As shall be discussed below, there is some question whether it is even appropriate to speak in terms of such an error being harmless because of the degree of evidence of a defendant\u2019s guilt. Even assuming that such an error could be harmless, the burden is on the State to prove that the error is harmless beyond a reasonable doubt (Kliner, 185 Ill. 2d at 162; McDonald, 168 Ill. 2d at 460, 660 N.E.2d at 849; Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 227-28, 636 N.E.2d at 539; Harris, 294 Ill. App. 3d at 568, 691 N.E.2d at 85), and the State has not shown the evidence of defendant\u2019s guilt to be overwhelming. There is no physical evidence linking the defendant to this crime. The only witness to the shooting was Williams.* ***** Although defendant left the jurisdiction the day after the killing, it is not clear that the jury believed Thomas\u2019s testimony that the defendant told her that he had done so because he knew that the victim had been shot and that he (defendant) had been implicated in the murder, as evidenced by its two notes requesting additional evidence on this issue. Page did see the defendant running away from Williams and the victim and heard the victim yelling at defendant to go get a \u201cstrap\u201d (which she understood to mean a gun), but she never saw the defendant return from across the street and she never saw a gun in his possession.\nMoreover, Williams\u2019s testimony is not unblemished. His trial testimony that \u201con the five\u201d was not gang related was contradicted, not only by Page and Roberts, but also by Detective Cross\u2019s testimony regarding what Williams had told him on the evening of the shooting. Page also directly contradicted Williams\u2019s testimony that the decedent was not in a gang. We need not go into the various other inconsistencies in details which defendant has highlighted (both at trial and on appeal) in order to conclude that although there is sufficient evidence to convict the defendant, the evidence was not so overwhelming as to satisfy the test for prejudicial error applicable to these facts which would require such a showing beyond a reasonable doubt.\nAdditionally, on a more fundamental level, where the State has failed to meet its burden of showing the communication was not coercive a defendant\u2019s conviction arguably should not be upheld even if the evidence against him is otherwise overwhelming, since this error involves a serious encroachment upon a defendant\u2019s right to trial by jury. Errors which \u201cabridge! ] the defendant\u2019s constitutional right to a trial by a fair and impartial jury\u201d \u201ccannot be disposed of by the harmless-error rule ***. The right to a trial by an impartial tribunal is so basic that a violation of the right requires a reversal.\u201d People v. Cole, 54 Ill. 2d 401, 411, 298 N.E.2d 705, 711 (1973). It has specifically been held that an allegation that a trial court coerced the juiy\u2019s verdict by a comment during its deliberations implicates \u201c[t]he right to a fair trial by an impartial jury.\u201d People v. Palmer, 125 Ill. App. 3d 703, 712, 466 N.E.2d 640, 647 (1984), citing Cole, 54 Ill. 2d 401, 298 N.E.2d 705. See also People v. Gregory, 184 Ill. App. 3d 676, 680-81, 540 N.E.2d 854, 857 (1989), stating:\n\u201c \u2018The integrity of the jury\u2019s verdict must be protected from coercion, duress or influence.\u2019 [Citation.] Thus, a court\u2019s judgment must be reversed and the cause remanded when, taken in context and considering all the circumstances of the case, its supplemental instruction to a jury has the effect of coercing jurors into surrendering views conscientiously held. [Citation.] \u2018A verdict hastened by the action of the judge, however worthy the motive, cannot be the result of that deliberation which the law guarantees.\u2019 [Citation.]\u201d Gregory, 184 Ill. App. 3d at 680-81, 540 N.E.2d at 857.\nIn Childs our supreme court stated:\n\u201c[U]pon review of a conviction the question is not whether guilt can be discerned from a record but \u2018whether guilt has been found by a jury according to the procedure and standards appropriate for criminal trials ***. From presuming too often all errors to be \u201cprejudicial,\u201d the judicial pendulum need not swing to presuming all errors to be \u201charmless\u201d if only the [reviewing] court is left without doubt that one who claims its corrective process is, after all, guilty.\u2019 \u201d Childs, 159 Ill. 2d at 231, 636 N.E.2d at 540, quoting Bollenbach v. United States, 326 U.S. 607, 614-15, 90 L. Ed. 350, 355, 66 S. Ct. 402, 406 (1946).\nAlthough we are aware of no authority directly on point, we would be hesitant to conclude that a showing that a trial court had coerced a verdict could be labelled \u201charmless\u201d simply because it appeared that the defendant would more than likely have been found guilty if he had received a fair trial.\nWe recognize, of course, that reviewing courts have found trial court communications with juries to be harmless. However, so far as we are aware, this result has never been reached on the basis that although the communication was coercive, the evidence was overwhelming. Rather, when communications have been found harmless, it has been because the communication did not have a coercive effect. E.g., Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d at 232, 568 N.E.2d at 848 (no basis for an inference that the trial court\u2019s remarks were coercive); Wooton, 198 Ill. App. 3d at 595, 555 N.E.2d at 1216 (\u201cno inference can be drawn that the trial court\u2019s remarks affected the jury\u2019s decision-making process\u201d). Even in cases in which reviewing courts have disposed of other issues on the basis that overwhelming evidence of defendant\u2019s guilt rendered the errors harmless, jury communications have not been so dealt with. E.g., People v. Watkins, 293 Ill. App. 3d 496, 688 N.E.2d 798 (1997) (admission of evidence harmless because of overwhelming evidence; no such analysis made in coercion issue); People v. Marshall, 165 Ill. App. 3d 968, 521 N.E.2d 538 (1988) (State\u2019s closing argument was harmless because of overwhelming evidence; no such analysis in coercion issue); People v. Sanders, 37 Ill. App. 3d 236, 345 N.E.2d 757 (1976) (improper question by State harmless because of overwhelming evidence; no such analysis in coercion issue).\nDefendant also contends he is entitled to a new trial because of Detective Cross\u2019s statement that when he was transporting defendant back to Chicago after having given him his Miranda warnings, the defendant stated that he had a lawyer and did not wish to speak with the police. The State essentially concedes that the statement was error, but contends that defendant has waived his appellate challenge thereto by failing to mention the statement in his posttrial motion, and also urges that the error was harmless because of the overwhelming evidence of defendant\u2019s guilt. Although the State is correct that improper evidence regarding a defendant\u2019s postarrest, post -Miranda silence or statement regarding a lawyer can be harmless error (People v. Patterson, 154 Ill. 2d 414, 466-67, 610 N.E.2d 16, 40 (1992) (silence); People v. Lucas, 132 Ill. 2d 399, 432-33, 548 N.E.2d 1003, 1016-17 (1989) (statement that defendant had requested a lawyer)), we do not find the evidence of defendant\u2019s guilt to have been overwhelming, as explained above. However, we note that the court did immediately instruct the jury to disregard the answer and admonished the detective to answer the question asked. Generally, the prompt sustaining of an objection by a trial judge is sufficient to cure any error in a question or answer before the jury. People v. Advine, 173 Ill. 2d 273, 296, 671 N.E.2d 713, 723 (1996); People v. Redd, 173 Ill. 2d 1, 29, 670 N.E.2d 583, 597 (1996); People v. Hobley, 159 Ill. 2d 272, 316, 637 N.E.2d 992, 1011 (1994).\nIn any event, we have already determined that defendant is entitled to a new trial because of the trial court\u2019s coercive communication with the jury. Accordingly, we need not determine what effect the detective\u2019s improper statement might have had, standing alone. We are confident that the error will not recur in defendant\u2019s retrial.\nFinally, we note that even had we affirmed defendant\u2019s conviction we would reverse and remand for the trial court to clarify whether defendant\u2019s sentence was based on its erroneous statement that the shooting was the result of gang rivalry.\nWe recognize initially that defendant has waived his sentencing challenges. Just as a defendant must file a posttrial motion raising the errors which occurred at trial for those errors to be preserved for appellate review (People v. Enoch, 122 Ill. 2d 176, 522 N.E.2d 1124 (1988)), he must also file a motion to reconsider his sentence in order to preserve a challenge to his sentence for appellate review. 730 ILCS 5/5\u20148\u20141(c) (West 1994); People v. Reed, 177 Ill. 2d 389, 390, 686 N.E.2d 584 (1997). Defendant represented in his brief to this court that the sentencing issues were preserved for review because he did file a motion to reconsider his sentence in the trial court. The record before us does not contain the alleged motion, however, although it does contain a motion to reconsider sentence for an apparently unrelated defendant (James Peevey) in an apparently unrelated case (No. 94 \u2014CR\u201420070). Nor does the trial court\u2019s docket sheet reflect any ruling on or filing of such a motion. Although we afforded appellate counsel for defendant the opportunity to supplement the record with the motion to reconsider sentence actually filed in this case, he has failed to do so. Accordingly, defendant\u2019s appellate challenges to his sentence are waived. Reed, 177 Ill. 2d at 390, 686 N.E.2d at 584.\nHowever, an allegation that a trial court relied upon an improper factor in sentencing implicates a defendant\u2019s fundamental right; we will reach such allegations notwithstanding waiver. People v. Whitney, 297 Ill. App. 3d 965, 969, 697 N.E.2d 815, 818 (1998). Although generally a sentence within the range allowed by the legislature will not be overturned unless the court has abused its discretion (People v. Meras, 284 Ill. App. 3d 157, 166, 671 N.E.2d 746, 753 (1996)), where a trial court mentions an improper or incorrect factor in sentencing, we must reverse and remand for the trial court to determine whether the improper factor affected the sentence defendant received unless we can conclude from the record that \u201cthe weight placed on such an improperly considered aggravating factor was so insignificant it resulted in no increase in the defendant\u2019s sentence.\u201d Whitney, 297 Ill. App. 3d at 971, 697 N.E.2d at 818; accord People v. Conover, 84 Ill. 2d 400, 405, 419 N.E.2d 906, 909 (1981) (remanding for reconsideration of sentence because \u201cthe trial court *** improperly considered *** an aggravating factor in sentencing and because we cannot determine how much weight that factor was accorded\u201d).\nIn this case the court stated, inter alia:\n\u201cIn spite of what you urge, [defense counsel], I find that this incident was motivated by several things, including gang membership. I recall at the gathering that [defendant] attended before the fatal encounter of the victim, there were words such as \u2018Up the Five,\u2019 or words to that effect. There was evidence that this court after hearing that testimony, much of what motivated [defendant] was a Folks versus People syndrome, membership in rival gangs; frilled perhaps by alcohol, 40 ouncers, were consumed that night by both sides of the fray if you will. Notwithstanding any motives or passions that may have arisen, there is no doubt that [defendant] shot down an unarmed man in the back with a rifle.\u201d\nThe court\u2019s statement that the shooting was motivated by membership in rival gangs was contrary to the evidence. The only evidence was that defendant and the victim were both \u201c5\u2019s\u201d and that they were going to fight each other notwithstanding a common gang affiliation, not because of an affiliation with rival gangs. Based upon this record we cannot say that this factor played an insignificant part in the trial court\u2019s calculation of defendant\u2019s sentence. The court spent more time discussing gang motive than any other factor. The State notes that after its discussion of the gang rivalry motivation the court went on to state that \u201cNotwithstanding any motives or passions that may have arisen, there is no doubt that [defendant] shot down an unarmed man in the back with a rifle.\u201d However, this alone does not make it clear that the court did not consider defendant\u2019s motivations, which it had just extensively discussed. Thus, we would be required to reverse and remand on the sentencing issue even had we affirmed defendant\u2019s convictions.\nCONCLUSION\nFor the reasons above stated, we reverse and remand to the circuit court of Cook County for a new trial.\nReversed and remanded.\nMcNULTY and COUSINS, JJ., concur.\nAlthough not reflected in the record, defendant contends on appeal that his defense team \u201cleft instructions with the sheriff that they were close by and could return within minutes.\u201d\nBut see People v. Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d 204, 231, 568 N.E.2d 837, 847-48 (1991), which appears to leave the burden on the defendant to prove prejudice from an ex parte communication between the court and the jury. However, Childs, McDonald and Kleiner have manifestly abandoned such a mode of analysis.\nI.e., the record does not reflect that the court was responding to a jury note, nor is there a record of any conversation between the court, the State, and defense counsel prior to the court\u2019s intervention.\nIn actuality, the jury must have deliberated for somewhat less than the 16 minutes which passed between 10:30 p.m., when the court called the jury back to court, and 10:46 p.m., when the court instructed the sheriff to return the jury to court a second time and was told that the verdicts were being signed. The jury could not have been deliberating during the time that it was communicating with the court, during the time thereafter when it was being returned to the jury room, or during the time that it took for court personnel to bring to the sheriff the information that the jury was signing a verdict. Accordingly, the actual amount of deliberations after the communication with the court was somewhat less than 16 minutes.\nThe State distinguishes Branch on the basis that that case involved an instruction to a jury which had revealed itself to be deadlocked. Although this point is accurate with respect to Branch, the Friedman jury had not informed the court that it was deadlocked and thus Friedman cannot be differentiated on this basis, nor can Steidl.\nWe also note that, although the State has not so argued, our result would not change if it were suggested that the jury could have interpreted the court\u2019s statement that it would call the jury out shortly as meaning that the jury would be sequestered for the evening. First, notwithstanding comments by the court and counsel outside the presence of the jury, there is no indication in the record that the jury was ever told that sequestration was even a possibility. Secondly, even if the State could somehow demonstrate that the statement was understood by the jury as referring to sequestration, we still could not find the statement harmless because of the brevity of the jury\u2019s subsequent deliberations, as previously discussed. See Steidl, 142 Ill. 2d 204, 568 N.E.2d 837; Friedman, 144 Ill. App. 3d 895, 494 N.E.2d 760; Branch, 123 Ill. App. 3d 245, 462 N.E.2d 868; Childs, 159 Ill. 2d 217, 636 N.E.2d 534 (and the other authorities discussed in the text).\nRoberts and Page only corroborated that there was a fight between the victim and the decedent inside the Owens household; neither Roberts nor Page saw the shooting nor even any fight between defendant and the victim outside. Although Roberts testified that Page said she had seen defendant and the victim fighting, Page specifically denied having seen a fight and denied having so told the others. Rather, she said that she had told the others that it seemed as if they had been fighting.\nWe reject defendant\u2019s contention that People v. Ehlert, 274 Ill. App. 3d 1026, 1035, 654 N.E.2d 705, 711 (1995), stands for the proposition that in general, jury notes demonstrate that the jury considers the evidence to be closely balanced. Although Ehlert makes a general statement along those lines (\u201cthe length of the jury deliberations and the jury\u2019s note demonstrate the closely balanced nature of the evidence\u201d), the jury note to which the court referred in that case was a deadlock note. 274 Ill. App. 3d at 1035, 654 N.E.2d at 711. However, the jury\u2019s request for a transcript of the interview between defendant and Thomas would fairly appear to support the conclusion that the jury had not reached a final conclusion whether defendant or Thomas was to be believed.\nDefendant\u2019s 43-year sentence in this case was within the statutory range of 20 to 60 years for the offense of first degree murder. 730 ILCS 5/5\u20149\u2014 1(a)(1)(a) (West 1994).", "type": "majority", "author": "PRESIDING JUSTICE GORDON" } ], "attorneys": [ "Rita A. Fry, Public Defender, of Chicago (James S. Jacobs, Assistant Public Defender, of counsel), for appellant.", "Richard A. Devine, State\u2019s Attorney, of Chicago (Renee Goldfarb, William Toffenetti, and Michael Faccdena, Assistant State\u2019s Attorneys, of counsel), for the People." ], "corrections": "", "head_matter": "THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. EDGAR ROSS, Defendant-Appellant.\nFirst District (2nd Division)\nNo. 1\u201497\u20141563\nOpinion filed March 23, 1999.\nRita A. Fry, Public Defender, of Chicago (James S. Jacobs, Assistant Public Defender, of counsel), for appellant.\nRichard A. Devine, State\u2019s Attorney, of Chicago (Renee Goldfarb, William Toffenetti, and Michael Faccdena, Assistant State\u2019s Attorneys, of counsel), for the People." }, "file_name": "0966-01", "first_page_order": 984, "last_page_order": 1003 }