{ "id": 5281093, "name": "The People of the State of Illinois, Defendant in Error, vs. Thomas Butman et al. Plaintiffs in Error", "name_abbreviation": "People v. Butman", "decision_date": "1934-10-19", "docket_number": "No. 22408", "first_page": "506", "last_page": "508", "citations": [ { "type": "official", "cite": "357 Ill. 506" } ], "court": { "name_abbreviation": "Ill.", "id": 8772, "name": "Illinois Supreme Court" }, "jurisdiction": { "id": 29, "name_long": "Illinois", "name": "Ill." }, "cites_to": [ { "cite": "233 Ill. 452", "category": "reporters:state", "reporter": "Ill.", "case_ids": [ 3377810 ], "opinion_index": 0, "case_paths": [ "/ill/233/0452-01" ] }, { "cite": "312 Ill. 611", "category": "reporters:state", "reporter": "Ill.", "case_ids": [ 5122006 ], "opinion_index": 0, "case_paths": [ "/ill/312/0611-01" ] } ], "analysis": { "cardinality": 278, "char_count": 3953, "ocr_confidence": 0.717, "pagerank": { "raw": 2.7488751983652386e-07, "percentile": 0.8325690030577072 }, "sha256": "390645f50839fcb8cf997ea7c9df91b0040fe64140f76e4709154314194424de", "simhash": "1:363825d75ae063b3", "word_count": 714 }, "last_updated": "2023-07-14T16:18:17.073107+00:00", "provenance": { "date_added": "2019-08-29", "source": "Harvard", "batch": "2018" }, "casebody": { "judges": [], "parties": [ "The People of the State of Illinois, Defendant in Error, vs. Thomas Butman et al. Plaintiffs in Error." ], "opinions": [ { "text": "Mr. Justice Shaw\ndelivered the opinion of the court:\nThe plaintiffs in error were convicted of grand larceny in the criminal court of Cook county and seek a review of that judgment by this writ of error. They are alleged to have stolen one automobile wheel, tire and tube, of the total value of $17.50. It is urged in their behalf that there is no competent evidence in the record sufficient to establish the value of this property at any sum above $15.\nThe first witness on this point was the owner of the car, who said that he purchased the property on April 1, 1931, and that the wheel, tire and tube were stolen in October of 1933. He testified that he thought the property was worth about $17.50. It developed, however, on cross-examination, that he had no knowledge on the subject except what he- had obtained by going to some dealers and inquiring as to what it would cost to replace the same property by buying a new wheel, tire and tube. His testimony was thereupon stricken out. The only other evidence on the point was that of a police officer, who testified that in addition to being a policeman he was \u201cautomobile man at that station,\u201d but gave no further indication as to what he meant by his additional occupation. He said that he was acquainted with the value of automobile tires and accessories, and was thereupon asked the following questions and gave the following answers: \u201cDo you know what the reasonable and fair value of those parts is, of that character ?\u201d to which he answered, \u201cI believe so.\u201d \u201cAnd now, what would you say the fair and reasonable value of an automobile wheel or tire and hub and inner tube would be on October n, the date of the-?\u201d and he answered, \u201cAbout $17.50.\u201d There is no further proof of any kind as to the value of the property in question, and it will be noted that the testimony of the police officer was not connected up with the property alleged to have been stolen in this case, nor was it shown that he had ever seen or had any knowledge of the particular wheel, tire and tube that were lost, as they were never recovered.\nIn those types of larceny where the value of the property is material it must be alleged and proved. (People v. Jackson, 312 Ill. 611; People v. Crane, 356 id. 276.) The proof must show the fair cash market value at the time and place of the theft, and the witness who testifies to it must have a sufficient knowledge of the property and of values to give a reasonable statement thereof. (People v. Turpin, 233 Ill. 452.) The police officer who testified in this case did not say he had ever bought or sold a wheel assembly such as was here in question, or that he had any means of knowing its value other than that he was \u201cautomobile man at that station.\u201d If this wheel, tire and tube were replaceable with new merchandise at a total cost of $17.50, it is highly improbable that their second-hand value at an age of thirty months would be that much.\nThis conviction of grand larceny rather than of petit larceny, with all the grave consequences following upon such a distinction, depends upon a possible variation of the small sum of $2.50 in the value of the property' stolen. Upon this point, as upon all others, the plaintiffs in error were entitled to insist that the proof be made only by competent and qualified witnesses. There is in the record no competent evidence as to the value of the property stolen.\nThe judgment of the criminal court of Cook county is reversed and the cause remanded to that court for a new trial.\nReversed and remanded.", "type": "majority", "author": "Mr. Justice Shaw" } ], "attorneys": [ "Frank A. McDonnell, and S. B. McDonnell, Jr., (Elwyn E. Long, of counsel,) for plaintiffs in error.", "Otto Kerner, Attorney General, Thomas J. Courtney, State\u2019s Attorney, and J. J. Neiger, (Edward E. Wilson, J. Albert Woll, and Henry E. Seyfarth, of counsel,) for the People." ], "corrections": "", "head_matter": "(No. 22408.\nThe People of the State of Illinois, Defendant in Error, vs. Thomas Butman et al. Plaintiffs in Error.\nOpinion filed October 19, 1934.\nFrank A. McDonnell, and S. B. McDonnell, Jr., (Elwyn E. Long, of counsel,) for plaintiffs in error.\nOtto Kerner, Attorney General, Thomas J. Courtney, State\u2019s Attorney, and J. J. Neiger, (Edward E. Wilson, J. Albert Woll, and Henry E. Seyfarth, of counsel,) for the People." }, "file_name": "0506-01", "first_page_order": 506, "last_page_order": 508 }