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  "name": "The People ex rel. Carl Silver, Appellant, vs. Thomas J. O'Brien, Sheriff, Appellee",
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      "The People ex rel. Carl Silver, Appellant, vs. Thomas J. O\u2019Brien, Sheriff, Appellee."
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        "text": "Mr. Justice Wilson\ndelivered the opinion of the court:\n\u201c Carl Silver was arrested as a fugitive from justice by the authority of a governor\u2019s warrant issued upon the de- \u2019 mand of the Governor of Texas. Seeking relief from his detention by the sheriff of Cook county, Silver filed a petition in the criminal court of Cook county for a writ of habeas corpus. A hearing upon the petition and the sheriff\u2019s return thereto resulted in a dismissal of the petition and Silver, the relator, was remanded to the custody of the sheriff, the respondent. The relator prosecutes this appeal.\nFrom the warrant of the Governor of Illinois, introduced in evidence, it appears that the relator was charged with the crime of conspiracy to pass as true a forged instrument in Webb county, Texas, on February 3, 1937, an offense which the Governor of Texas certifies to be a crime under the laws of his State. The indictment charged that anterior to its presentment the relator and three others, on or about February 3, 1937, in Webb county, Texas, unlawfully conspired, combined, confederated and entered into a positive agreement with each other unlawfully, knowingly and fraudulently to pass as true a forged instrument in writing, namely, a gold debenture of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company having a par value of $1000, which the four named conspirators then and there knew to be forged. The second count charged the relator and his co-defendants illegally conspired to have in their possession with fraudulent intent to use and pass as true a forged instrument which they knew to be forged. Upon motion of two of the four defendants, a change of venue was taken from the district court of Webb county to the district court of Wilson county, Texas. A capias was then issued by the clerk of the district court of Wilson county commanding Silver\u2019s arrest and his production before the district court of Wilson county to answer the indictment. Subsequent to the change of venue, the county attorney of Wilson county applied to the Governor of Texas for a requisition for the apprehension and rendition of Silver.\nTo obtain a reversal of the judgment against him, the relator contends that the indictment fails to charge a crimp against the laws of Texas. He argues that the indictment fails to affirmatively allege that the defendant \u201cknew\u201d the instrument was a forgery at the time of the formation or during the existence of the conspiracy, on or about February 3, 1937. It is urged that the allegation of \u201cknowledge\u201d can as well relate to a time \u201canterior to the presentment\u201d of the indictment which, it is suggested, might be after the termination of the conspiracy as to the specific time charged. Accordingly, the relator insists that it is impossible to determine from the face of the indictment when the \u201cknowledge\u201d of the forgery attached to the defendants with respect to their alleged conspiracy to pass the forged debenture. Recourse to the indictment discloses that relator\u2019s contention is without merit. Both counts charge that relator and his three co-defendants \u201cthen and there,\u201d at the time of the conspiracy to pass the forged instrument, knew it was forged. The indictment appears to be in substantial conformity with the laws of the State in which it was returned. Under such circumstances, its sufficiency, as a matter of technical pleading, will not be inquired into on an application for a writ of habeas corpus to determine the lawfulness of the detention of an alleged fugitive from justice. People ex rel. Lyman v. Smith, 352 Ill. 496; People ex rel. Kahn v. Meyering, 348 id. 486.\nRelator also asserts that the certification of the judicial proceedings of the district court of Webb county, Texas, by the clerk of the district court of Wilson county creates a fatal defect on the face of the extradition papers sufficient to invalidate the warrant. Upon the change of venue from Webb county, the indictment and other documents were transmitted as court records to the clerk of the district court of Wilson county. Thereafter, the indictment was treated as though it originated in Wilson county. No valid reason appears for challenging the authority of the clerk of the district court of Wilson county to certify the proceedings, including the indictment voted in Webb county. The Governor of the demanding State has certified the extradition papers as being duly authenticated, and, for the purposes of the present action, his certification is sufficient. People ex rel. Carr v. Murray, 357 Ill. 326; People ex rel. Stevens v. Meyering, 349 id. 198; Lacondra v. Hermann, 343 id. 608.\nThe judgment of the criminal court is affirmed.\nJudgment affirmed.",
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        "author": "Mr. Justice Wilson"
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    "attorneys": [
      "Julius Reznik, for appellant.",
      "George F. Barrett, Attorney General, and Thomas 'J. Courtney, State\u2019s Attorney, (Edward E. Wilson, John T. Gallagher, Melvin S. Rembe, James V. Cunningham, Walter L. McCoy, and Benjamin Woodall, of counsel,) for appellee."
    ],
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    "head_matter": "(No. 26600.\nThe People ex rel. Carl Silver, Appellant, vs. Thomas J. O\u2019Brien, Sheriff, Appellee.\nOpinion filed September 21, 1942.\nJulius Reznik, for appellant.\nGeorge F. Barrett, Attorney General, and Thomas 'J. Courtney, State\u2019s Attorney, (Edward E. Wilson, John T. Gallagher, Melvin S. Rembe, James V. Cunningham, Walter L. McCoy, and Benjamin Woodall, of counsel,) for appellee."
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