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Blackstone, Commentaries *375" } ], "opinion_index": 1 }, { "cite": "109 N.M. 428", "category": "reporters:state", "reporter": "N.M.", "case_ids": [ 1590276 ], "weight": 2, "year": 1990, "opinion_index": 1, "case_paths": [ "/nm/109/0428-01" ] }, { "cite": "109 N.M. 536", "category": "reporters:state", "reporter": "N.M.", "case_ids": [ 1590299, 1590343 ], "weight": 2, "pin_cites": [ { "page": "540" }, { "page": "459" } ], "opinion_index": 1, "case_paths": [ "/nm/109/0536-01", "/nm/109/0536-02" ] }, { "cite": "98 N.M. 213", "category": "reporters:state", "reporter": "N.M.", "case_ids": [ 1582585 ], "weight": 4, "year": 1982, "pin_cites": [ { "page": "215" }, { "page": "417" } ], "opinion_index": 1, "case_paths": [ "/nm/98/0213-01" ] } ], "analysis": { "cardinality": 1032, "char_count": 24554, "ocr_confidence": 0.787, "pagerank": { "raw": 9.863739851773462e-08, "percentile": 0.5345201592834177 }, "sha256": "f3e9c51a278158ef45770629d0a321f9aeee5b7c5dd1519995b17ebb58667e42", "simhash": "1:9fec6e3f3dfb98d3", "word_count": 4052 }, "last_updated": "2023-07-14T22:33:30.469339+00:00", "provenance": { "date_added": "2019-08-29", "source": "Harvard", "batch": "2018" }, "casebody": { "judges": [ "CHAVEZ, J., concurs.", "HARTZ, J., specially concurring." ], "parties": [ "STATE of New Mexico, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. RICKY G., Defendant-Appellant." ], "opinions": [ { "text": "OPINION\nMINZNER, Judge.\nThe child appeals from the disposition of his case in children\u2019s court. The only remedy requested on appeal is a new dispositional hearing.\nBackground.\nAfter this case was calendared, it became apparent that the tapes of the disposition hearing could not be located. By order of this court, the docketing statement, motions to amend the docketing statement, and memoranda in response provide the factual basis for the appeal. The same order allowed the state to provide its own statement of facts in the answer brief. There has been no dispute as to the relevant facts, and, in the absence of objections by the state, we accept the child\u2019s allegations of fact as correct.\nThe child admitted committing a delinquent act, consumption of alcohol by a minor. The children\u2019s court committed him to the Youth Diagnostic and Development Center (YDDC) for a sixty- to ninety-day evaluation. After the evaluation was completed, the children\u2019s court held a dispositional hearing.\nThe written recommendations received from the YDDC and the local juvenile probation officer both recommended a suspended commitment to the Boys\u2019 School, that the child be returned to his home, and that the family receive therapy. However, at the dispositional hearing, the juvenile probation officer orally changed his recommendation and recommended that the child be committed to the Boys\u2019 School for an indeterminate term not exceeding two years. The child\u2019s counsel, apparently surprised by the change, asked for a continuance to prepare an alternative sentencing plan. The children\u2019s court denied the continuance; according to the docketing statement as amended, the court indicated that no alternative plan was possible and that nothing defense counsel could present would persuade the court that the recommendations against incarceration were appropriate. The court, without asking the child if he personally wished to address the court prior to the disposition of the case, ordered that the child be committed to the legal custody of the corrections department for an indeterminate period not to exceed two years. The child did not ask to personally address the court prior to the court\u2019s announcement of its disposition of the case.\nOn appeal, the child argues that the failure of the children\u2019s court to ask him if he had anything to say prior to announcing its disposition of his case denied him his right to allocution, which he contends is a basic right under NMSA 1978, Section 32-1-27(A) (Repl.Pamp.1989), and that this court should remand the case for a new sentencing hearing before a different judge. We agree. Because of our disposition, we do not reach the other issues argued on appeal.\nPreservation of Error.\nAt the outset, we must determine whether the issue raised on appeal was raised and preserved below. See SCRA 1986, 12-216. Assuming without deciding that the issue was not properly raised and preserved below, we exercise our discretion to consider the issue on appeal as an issue of general public interest. See R. 12-216(B)(1). Cf. State v. Doe, 90 N.M. 572, 566 P.2d 121 (Ct.App.1977) (dispositional powers of the children\u2019s court with respect to mentally ill delinquent child); State v. Doe, 90 N.M. 536, 565 P.2d 1053 (Ct.App.1977) (application of double jeopardy to multiple probation revocation proceedings).\nRight to Allocution.\nThe Children\u2019s Code, NMSA 1978, Sections 32-1-1 to -59 (Repl.Pamp.1989), guarantees to children \u201cthe same basic rights as an adult, except as otherwise provided in the Children\u2019s Code.\u201d \u00a7 32-l-27(A). In Tomlinson v. State, 98 N.M. 213, 215, 647 P.2d 415, 417 (1982), our supreme court held that NMSA 1978, Section 31-18-15.1 (Repl.Pamp.1987), requiring a sentencing hearing to determine whether aggravating or mitigating circumstances exist, also required the trial court to give a defendant an opportunity to speak before the trial court pronounces sentence. This court has explicitly interpreted Tomlinson to require that a defendant be invited to address the court directly. State v. Stenz, 109 N.M. 536, 787 P.2d 455 (Ct.App.1990). However, in Stem, this court held that due process did not require that a defendant be afforded a right to address the court personally before being sentenced for a misdemeanor. Our holding in Stem was based on the absence of a statute or rule providing for allocution and the lack of policy reasons to require allocution in misdemeanor cases.\nThe state attempts to distinguish Tomlinson and bring this case within the ambit of Stem by arguing, in effect, that dispositional hearings are not required in children\u2019s court. In support of this argument, the state points to Section 32-l-31(F), allowing the court to make disposition immediately after it finds the child to be delinquent, and Section 32-l-31(G), concerning evidence that can be considered at dispositional proceedings. Neither of these statutes supports the state\u2019s position.\nThe Children\u2019s Code contemplates a multi-stage process. The Code separates the issues of whether the child (\u00a1ommitted the delinquent act, whether the child is in need of care and rehabilitation, or what disposition should be ordered. See \u00a7 32-1-31(D), (E), (F); see Doe v. State, 92 N.M. 74, 582 P.2d 1287 (1978). Within this context, the statutory provision allowing the children\u2019s court to proceed immediately to disposition provides flexibility in scheduling; it does not eliminate the need for a hearing. Similarly, Section 32-1-31(G), which allows the children\u2019s court to consider at the dispositional hearing evidence that would not have been competent had it been offered during the hearings on adjudicatory issues and the issue of need for care and rehabilitation, authorizes the children\u2019s court judge to exercise broad discretion in considering evidence as to the appropriate disposition. Doe v. State. In authorizing the children\u2019s court judge to consider a wide range of evidence, the legislature cannot be understood to have authorized the children\u2019s court to omit the dispositional phase.\nMoreover, we believe there are strong policy considerations that compel the recognition of allocution in children\u2019s court and that distinguish this case from our holding in Stem. The legislature has required that the Children\u2019s Code be interpreted and construed to effectuate certain express legislative purposes. \u00a7 32-1-2; State v. Jonathan M., 109 N.M. 789, 791 P.2d 64 (1990). With respect to delinquent children, the purposes of the Children\u2019s Code are to remove from the child the adult consequences of criminal behavior while still holding the child accountable for his actions, and to provide an appropriate program of supervision, care, and rehabilitation. \u00a7 32-l-2(B) & (D). Indeed, the statutory provision for commitment to treatment and rehabilitation distinguishes the Children\u2019s Code from comparable statutes governing crimes committed by adults. \u201cOnce a child is deemed \u2018within the Children\u2019s Code\u2019 the court must fashion a remedy beneficial to both the child and society.\u201d State v. Jonathan M., 109 N.M. at 790, 791 P.2d at 65.\nIn reference to adults, our supreme court has observed that \u201c \u2018[Tjhere is no substitute for the impact on sentencing which a defendant\u2019s own words might have if he chooses to make a statement.\u2019 \u201d Tomlinson v. State, 98 N.M. at 215, 647 P.2d at 417 (quoting Mohn v. State, 584 P.2d 40, 44 (Alaska 1978)). We believe that the child\u2019s statements are even more important in a children\u2019s court proceeding. The child\u2019s own view of the situation, his willingness to accept responsibility for it, and his remorse or lack thereof is, or at least should be, an important consideration in determining an appropriate program of care, supervision, and rehabilitation. Moreover, by inviting the child to participate directly in the dispositional hearing, the children\u2019s court indicates that the child\u2019s views are relevant and material. That message may have rehabilitative value. See ABA Juvenile Justice Standards, Standards Relating to Dispositional Procedures, Part YI, \u00a7 6.3(C), commentary, at 50 (1980) (hereinafter Standards).\nFinally, we believe the state\u2019s argument analogizing children\u2019s court cases to misdemeanor proceedings ignores the realities of the situation. As a matter of law, a child who is found to have committed a delinquent act, whatever its nature, may be committed to an appropriate institution for up to two years. See \u00a7\u00a7 32-l-34(E) & -38(A). An adult may receive a sentence of two years only for a crime the law declares to be a felony. NMSA 1978, \u00a7 31-18-15 (Repl.Pamp.1987). We believe the potential length of confinement is a significant factor in determining whether children\u2019s court proceedings should be analogized to felony rather than misdemeanor proceedings. Cf. State v. Sanchez, 109 N.M. 428, 786 P.2d 42 (1990) (availability of right to a jury trial should be determined by objective standard based on the legislative maximum, rather than by any limitation imposed by the trial court prior to trial). Further, two years may be an even more significant period of time for a child than for an adult. In short, objectively and subjectively, a child charged with a delinquent act faces charges that are comparable in seriousness to a felony prosecution.\nFor these reasons, we conclude that a child has the right to address the children\u2019s court before disposition. See Standards, \u00a7 6.3(C). We also conclude that the children\u2019s court should offer a child the opportunity to address the court before pronouncing sentence.\nReassignment to a Different Judge.\nThe child asks this court to order that this case be assigned to a different judge on remand. In support of his request, he relies on United States v. Robin, 553 F.2d 8 (2d Cir.1977). In Robin, the Second Circuit indicated that there were three principal factors relevant to an appellate court\u2019s consideration of whether a new judge should be assigned to the case on remand, absent proof of personal bias that would require recusal. These factors are:\n(1) whether the original judge would reasonably be expected upon remand to have substantial difficulty in putting out of his or her mind previously-expressed views or findings determined to be erroneous or based on evidence that must be rejected, (2) whether reassignment is advisable to preserve the appearance of justice, and (3) whether reassignment would entail waste and duplication out of proportion to any gain in preserving the appearance of fairness.\nId. at 10. In State v. Whitaker, 110 N.M. 486, 797 P.2d 275 (Ct.App.1990) (No. 11,-254), this court discussed the Robin standard but found it unnecessary to decide whether to adopt it. See also United States v. Heubel, 864 F.2d 1104 (3rd Cir.1989). Here, also, we do not believe it is necessary to adopt the standard in order to answer the child\u2019s request, although we note that a number of federal circuit courts of appeal have adopted the Robin standard. Id. at 1112 n. 4. However, the standard is helpful in explaining our decision.\nIn this case, according to the docketing statement, the. children\u2019s court has already indicated that nothing would persuade the court that the recommendations against incarceration were appropriate. See United States v. Navarro-Flores, 628 F.2d 1178 (9th Cir.1980) (reassigning the matter to a different judge for sentencing where defendant had been denied his right to allocution and the trial court had expressed strongly-held views concerning the defendant). Moreover, the reassignment of this case to a different judge would preserve the appearance of justice, and would not entail waste and duplication. Indeed, in connection with this last factor, we note that the judge who imposed sentence on the child was not the same judge who had conducted prior proceedings in this case. Under these circumstances, we conclude that the case should be assigned to a different judge for disposition.\nConclusion.\nFor the reasons given above, the disposition entered in this case is vacated, and the case is remanded to the children\u2019s court for a new dispositional' hearing during which the child shall be accorded his right to allocution. We note that the record proper does not have the child\u2019s last name deleted, in violation of Section 32-l-39(A). The clerk of this court is instructed to return the copy of the children\u2019s court record filed in this court, and the children\u2019s court is instructed to delete the name of the child from all documents contained therein. Thereafter, the children\u2019s court shall return the copy to this court. The clerk of this court is directed to delete the name of the child from all documents filed in this court that are not part of the children\u2019s court record.\nIT IS SO ORDERED.\nCHAVEZ, J., concurs.\nHARTZ, J., specially concurring.", "type": "majority", "author": "MINZNER, Judge." }, { "text": "HARTZ, Judge\n(specially concurring).\nI concur in the result but not in the opinion of the court, except with respect to the procedure on remand.\nNMSA 1978, Section 32-l-27(A) (Repl. Pamp.1989) states, \u201cA child subject to the provisions of the Children\u2019s Code is entitled to the same basic rights as an adult, except as otherwise provided in the Children\u2019s Code.\u201d (Emphasis added.) The statute did not afford the child a right to allocution in this case for two reasons. First, allocution is not a basic right for adults represented by counsel. Second, in New Mexico only felons, not misdemeanants, are entitled to allocution. When a right is afforded to some adults but not others, I would read Section 32-1-27(A) to say that a child is entitled to the right only if an adult accused of the same misconduct would be entitled to the right. Because the child\u2019s misconduct here would not have constituted a felony, he was not entitled to allocution.\nNevertheless, I concur in reversal because the children\u2019s court pronounced its disposition before the child or his counsel could address the court on the subject.\nDEFINITION AND IMPORTANCE OF THE RIGHT OF ALLOCUTION\nAllocution is not the right of the defendant to address the court. \u201cAt common law the defendant in a felony case had a right, called \u2018allocution,\u2019 to be asked formally whether he had \u2018any thing to offer why judgment should not be awarded against him.\u2019 \u201d Note, Procedural Due Process at Judicial Sentencing for Felony, 81 Harv.L.Rev. 821, 832 (1968) (quoting 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *375). \u201c[Ajllocution is an authoritative address by the court to the prisoner as he stands at the bar for sentence.\u201d Green v. United States, 365 U.S. 301, 307 n. 2, 81 S.Ct. 653, 657 n. 2, 5 L.Ed.2d 670 (1961) (quoting Barrett, Allocution, 9 Mo.L.Rev. 115, 232, at 254 (1944)).\nAllocution is a peculiar right. In a sense, it is the right to be advised of another right.\nTo appreciate this peculiarity, consider what would seem to be an analogous situation. Just as a defendant has the right to address the court before imposition of sentence, a defendant has the right to testify at trial. Indeed, the right to testify at trial would seem to be a more important right than the right to personally address the court at sentencing. Yet, after the state rests its case, the court does not advise the defendant of the right to testify. This is not because courts do not value a defendant\u2019s right to testify. Surely a court would set aside a conviction if the defendant could show that the reason for failure to testify at trial was that the defendant was ignorant of the right to testify. Why, then, when the'right to testify at trial is comparable to the right to speak at a sentencing hearing, is there no analogue to allocution in the former situation?\nThe answer is history. Allocution was first provided in a context quite different from modern criminal proceedings.\n[SJince the common law judge generally had no discretion as to the quantum of punishment in felony cases, the point of his question to the defendant was not to elicit mitigating evidence or a plea for leniency, but to give the defendant a formal opportunity to present one of the strictly defined legal reasons which required the avoidance or delay of sentencing: he was not the person convicted, he had benefit of clergy or a pardon, he was insane, or if a woman, she was pregnant. [Footnotes omitted.]\nNote, supra, 81 Harv.L.Rev. at 832-33. \u201c[T]he right of allocution arose at a time when many crimes were punishable by death and when the defendant had no right to be represented by counsel or even to testify on his own behalf * * *.\u201d 3 W. LaFave & J. Israel, Criminal Procedure \u00a7 25.1(f), at 118 (1984). See McGautha v. California, 402 U.S. 183, 217-18, 91 S.Ct. 1454, 1472-73, 28 L.Ed.2d 711 (1971). Of. course, since the defendant had no right to counsel and was not permitted to testify at trial, the court had no reason to presume that the defendant would know of the right to speak at sentencing unless the judge so advised.\nIn the present day, allocution still serves three purposes: (1) it informs defendants (presumably those not represented by counsel) who would otherwise not know of the right, that they have the right to speak before imposition of sentence; (2) it creates a record to avoid future questions about whether the defendant was aware of the right to speak; and (3) it may encourage defendants to speak by suggesting that the judge really cares, really wants to hear from the defendant. These are useful purposes, but they do not raise allocution to the level of a basic right for defendants represented by counsel. If allocution is a basic right, then a defendant also has a basic right to be advised by the court of every other right that may prove similarly useful at trial \u2014 not only the right of a defendant to testify, but the right to object to hearsay, the right to exclude witnesses from the courtroom before they testify, etc. The ancient provenance of a right does not make it \u201cbasic.\u201d\nThe weight of authority also suggests that allocution is not essential to fairness for a defendant represented by counsel. In State v. Stenz, 109 N.M. 536, 540, 787 P.2d 455, 459 (Ct.App.1990), we noted the absence of reported decisions granting defendants in misdemeanor cases the right to allocution in the absence of a statute or rule. But see State in Interest of A.H., 115 N.J.Super. 268, 272, 279 A.2d 133, 135 (1971) (\u201cfundamental fairness compels the allowance of allocution\u201d to a juvenile who has been adjudicated delinquent); In re Virgil M., 46 Md.App. 654, 421 A.2d 105 (1980) (juvenile\u2019s right of allocution). In Hill v. United States, 368 U.S. 424, 428, 82 S.Ct. 468, 471, 7 L.Ed.2d 417 (1962), the Supreme Court stated that the failure of a' judge to ask a defendant represented by counsel whether he wished to say anything before imposition of sentence was neither constitutional error nor \u201ca fundamental defect which inherently results in a complete miscarriage of justice, nor an omission inconsistent with the rudimentary demands of fair procedure.\u201d\nThis authority does not disparage the importance of a defendant\u2019s, or child\u2019s, address to the court before imposition of sentence or disposition. As Justice Frankfurter wrote, \u201cThe most persuasive counsel may not be able to speak for a defendant as the defendant might, with halting eloquence, speak for himself.\u201d Green v. United States, 365 U.S. at 304, 81 S.Ct. at 655. Yet, Justice Frankfurter joined in the Supreme Court\u2019s opinion in Hill. The United States Supreme Court has distinguished, as should this court, between the importance of the defendant\u2019s statement and the lesser value of the court\u2019s advising a defendant represented by counsel of the right to speak.\nWHAT ADULT RIGHTS ARE AVAILABLE TO CHILDREN UNDER SECTION 32-1-27(A)?\nMoreover, even if allocution were a \u201cbasic right,\u201d it is not a right afforded all adults. An adult convicted of a felony has the right to allocution. See Tomlinson v. State, 98 N.M. 213, 647 P.2d 415 (1982). An adult convicted of a misdemeanor does not. See State v. Stem.\nThus, it is not immediately apparent whether allocution would be provided under Section 32-1-27(A), which states that a child is \u201centitled to the same basic rights as an adult.\u201d What \u201cadult\u201d is the statute referring to \u2014 a felon or a misdemeanant? The statute must mean \u201cthe same basic rights as an adult in a comparable circumstance.\"\nWhat features of the proceeding against the child should be used to determine whether the \u201ccomparable\u201d proceeding against an adult is one that resulted in a felony conviction? The majority looks to the maximum period for which a delinquent child can be committed to state custody\u2014 two years \u2014 and concludes that the analogous adult proceeding must be one leading to a felony conviction, because an adult can be imprisoned for two years only if convicted of a felony. This approach has some appeal, but it ignores the fact that the consequences \u2014 both in terms of the decrease in freedom and later collateral penalties \u2014 are substantially less for a child adjudicated delinquent than for a convicted felon.\nMore importantly, the Children\u2019s Code itself emits a strong signal regarding what criterion is to be used to compare a children's court proceeding to an adult proceeding. The Code provides that a child\u2019s statutory right to a jury trial (children have no constitutional right to a jury trial, at least when the alleged misconduct would not constitute a felony if committed by an adult, see State v. Doe, 90 N.M. 776, 568 P.2d 612 (Ct.App.1977)) depends on the nature of the misconduct with which the child is charged. The child has a right to a jury only if the alleged delinquent acts \u201cwould be triable by jury if committed by an adult.\u201d NMSA 1978, \u00a7 32-l-31(A) (Repl.Pamp.1989). An adult is entitled to a jury trial if the offense carries a possible penalty in excess of six months. See State v. Sanchez, 109 N.M. 428, 786 P.2d 42 (1990). In other words, a child is not entitled to a jury trial if the alleged misconduct would be a petty misdemeanor if committed by an adult, see State v. Benjamin C., 109 N.M. 67, 781 P.2d 795 (Ct.App.1989); State v. Doe, even though the potential penalty for a child is the same whether the misconduct would be a felony, a misdemeanor, a petty misdemeanor, or even no offense at all if committed by an adult.\nAn adult\u2019s right to trial by jury is no less precious than the right of allocution. The treatment by the Children\u2019s Code of the right to trial by jury implies that in determining what class of adults the delinquent child should be compared to in determining the rights of the child, the Children\u2019s Code looks to the nature of the misconduct committed by the child rather than to the disposition that could be imposed upon the child. Because the misconduct committed by the child in this case would not be a felony if committed by an adult, Section 32-l-27(A) would not entitle the child to allocution even if the right of allocution afforded a convicted felon were deemed a \u201cbasic\u201d right.\nGROUNDS FOR REVERSAL\nNevertheless, I would set aside the sentence in this case. Although the United States Supreme Court has not considered whether it is a \u201cconstitutional right,\u201d see McGautha v. California, 402 U.S. at 218, 91 S.Ct. at 1472, the right to address the court (either personally or through counsel) before pronouncement of the sentence or disposition should be deemed a \u201cbasic right\u201d when life or liberty is at stake, except, perhaps, when the sentence or disposition is mandatory. Cf. State v. Doe, 90 N.M. 404, 564 P.2d 207 (Ct.App.1977) (court violated former statute by denying children\u2019s attorney an opportunity to be heard). That right apparently was violated in this case.\nUnfortunately, the recording of the proceeding has vanished. From the rendition of facts upon which we must rely, however, it appears that, in substance, the children\u2019s court announced the disposition before the child or his counsel could have spoken on the issue. Later comment would be, as the children\u2019s court assured those present, \u201can empty gesture.\u201d Tomlinson v. State, 98 N.M. at 215, 647 P.2d at 417. In these circumstances, reversal is appropriate. We have more than just a failure of the court to advise a child who is represented by counsel of the child\u2019s rights. See In re Doe, 88 N.M. 481, 542 P.2d 61 (Ct.App.1975).", "type": "concurrence", "author": "HARTZ, Judge" } ], "attorneys": [ "Hal Stratton, Atty. Gen., Margaret B. Alcock, Asst. Atty. Gen., Santa Fe, for plaintiff-appellee.", "Jacquelyn Robins, Chief Public Defender, Bruce Rogoff, Asst. Appellate Defender, Santa Fe, for defendant-appellant." ], "corrections": "", "head_matter": "798 P.2d 596\nSTATE of New Mexico, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. RICKY G., Defendant-Appellant.\nNo. 11351.\nCourt of Appeals of New Mexico.\nAug. 30, 1990.\nHal Stratton, Atty. Gen., Margaret B. Alcock, Asst. Atty. Gen., Santa Fe, for plaintiff-appellee.\nJacquelyn Robins, Chief Public Defender, Bruce Rogoff, Asst. Appellate Defender, Santa Fe, for defendant-appellant." }, "file_name": "0646-01", "first_page_order": 674, "last_page_order": 680 }